Rudy Giuliani Explains Republican Party's Failure in 2008
The Republican Party has always recovered from failed elections usually by reinventing itself and enlarging its base. Since 2000, the party has stopped trying to increase its size instead it has been trying to stand firm on certain issues that are not exactly relevant. Rudy Giuliani has a great analysis of the election of 2008, watch the video in HD.
Rudy Giuliani Explains Republican Party's Loss in 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BtvIp9dEh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nwNGatLXiE
Rudy Giuliani is right. As much as a social conservative you may be, these aren't the issues that the Republican party should be fighting right now. Social issues such as Gay Marriage, Abortion, and Religion are all issues that depend on person's beliefs not from party affiliation.
I have interviewed hundreds of people who voted for Obama and politically quizzed them; in order to find out what kind of people are voting for Obama.
What I found is shocking. Not only did I find people that if you were their friend you would assume automatically that they were far right wingers, but also people who really like Republicans in general.
I met people who were radically pro-life voting for Obama.
I met people who were radically anti-gay voting for Obama.
I met people who were radically religious, some of them Evangelist even though we assumed John McCain destroyed Obama in the Rick Warren debate.
I met people who were fairly conservative but assumed John McCain was an ultraconservative right winger.
So what stereotypes exist in the urban world of Republicans?
We need to defeat these stereotypes, and we can without bending on our principles or party platforms.
- That Republicans are war-mongers.
- That Republicans are anti-gay.
- That Republicans are anti-secularists.
- That Republicans are anti-minority.
- That Republicans are heartless.
- That Republicans are xenophobic.
- That Republicans are rich.
- That Republicans are uneducated.
These are outrageous stereotypes, but the Democrats have created enough propaganda that even the most outrageous sounds realistic.
The Conclusion
What Conservatives don't realize, or perhaps don't want to accept as truth--is that the Republican Party is alienating its own base by presenting smaller social issues as a top priority.
Another alienation is of Suburban people as Giuliani says. One more alienation is minorities, not because of a strong stance of illegal immigration but the perception that they do not want to help minorities.
What the party has to do is, create a big tent like Ronald Reagan in which there is room for disagreement. Republicans do not need stances on every social issue, that is for society, sociologists, and the people to decide, not politicians.
How, then, will the party attract the anti-gay, anti-secular, xenophobic freepers? One doesn't have to read too many posts at freerepublic and worldnetdaily to realize that there is a large contingent that fits these stereotypes.
The party doesn't have to attract them, the party doesn't even have to have an opinion on Gays. The party simply has to show what different policies it would support once in power.
To a xenophobe, the choice is simple:
(a) vote for an anti-xenophobe who agrees with you on the economy
(b) vote for an anti-xenophobe who disagrees with you on the economy
This is an effective strategy, because xenophobes, anti-seculars, anti-gays are slowly getting smaller and smaller. Just like the segregationalists disappeared, they too shall disappear. You can give me hundreds of arguments to the contrary but they will all lack evidence.
The reason the GOP lost is because they choose the most liberal man in the field - John McCain. Without Palin it would have been a route.
Rudy the RINO is one of the parties failures, who let him into the party anyway?
It's funny how Republicans constantly try and call out other Republicans as "RINO"s (Republican in name only). You barely, barely, hear Democrats yell "DINO" (although it happens, it's rare).
This is because they have a better strategy and are more open to differing opinions. One of the reasons why Democrats won the recent elections. And DON'T even dare say that Bush won because of conservative principles, he won because of the great engineering by Karl Rove, powerful campaign efforts and grassroots, and the fact that the other candidates were just awful.
If you really really think about it, other than 2002 and 2004, Republicans have been loosing for almost 2 decades.
The reason is, because conservatives have TROUBLE accepting differing opinions in their own party (as evidence, just see how many people flame Rudy Giuliani).
I can have only one opinion of the Second Amendment, it shall not be infringed. If this is no longer a Republican core value I will no longer support the party. I'm not a newcomer, I first campaigned for Barry Goldwater RKBA is not my only interest but it is a litmus test.
2nd Amendment is a right. And Republicans will not drop that.
Rudy was talking about social issues like Gay marriage and abortion, which differ from person to person regardless of party lines.
Come on, Rudy trashed the 2nd amendment every chance he got, until he decided to run in a national election.
The GOP base is demoralized by the abandonment of long held principles, the motto now seems to be "the end justifies the means". Last years lineup of candidates was ridiculous, unless they were trying to please liberals.
However, you must consider that the country did become more leftist because of Bush's policies which many believed were a problem--even if Bush was right on most of his policies, the perception was different.
This is why a moderate Republican like John McCain had to run and it's why he was successful. In this environment, a very principle-driven conservative would have lost the election of 2008 worse than John McCain. Many people voted for John McCain because of his record of crossing the aisle.
Rudy was wrong for stepping on the 2nd amendment a little bit. John McCain was wrong to even think about bending on illegal immigration. However, I'm sure they only did it because of their constituents at home not because of their beliefs (THINK: Illegal Immigration in Arizona? Guns in New York? You have to think about the people that live there and their general opinion.)
" Guns in New York? You have to think about the people that live there and their general opinion".
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I think about the people in New York who are deprived of an unalienable right because of "general opinion".
We are a republic, with a constitution intended to protect individuals from government excess, AND, the excesses of democratic demand.
Illegal immigration is illegal anywhere it happens. Selective enforcement of laws can only lead to disrespect of the law in general. When it is the government that disrespects the law, none of us is safe! A good example is the disgraceful treatment of law abiding gun owners in New Orleans, more than a few officials deserved prosecution, but were allowed to get away with no more than a scolding.
Yeah but what I meant was, Illegal Immigration is wrong, but the companies and businesses there vote for John McCain and demand of him to make it easier for them to get cheap workers.
New Yorkers, aware of high crime rates, are paranoid of guns (even though all big cities have high crime rates), and so they pressure Rudy to make guns harder to get.
It's realpolitik. Not because Rudy Giuliani or John McCain don't agree with other Republicans--I'm sure they are a lot more conservative than you think.
Big city crime rates are the product of barbarians, not decent citizens with guns. As a leader, in a position of influence, Rudy should have made this point to his constituents. There is no proof that New York Cities Draconian laws make the streets any safer. It is, in fact, likely, that armed, responsible citizens would cause a decrease in violent crime.
I don't really care what people do, or think, in NYC, I find it foreign and disgusting. NYC often blames it's problems on the fact, however, that I enjoy freedom where I live. They attempt to export their nonsense. An attack on my liberty is no different, to me, than an actual physical attack on my person. Rudy's lawsuits against gun makers were just simply wrong, and unforgivable.
Well you're absolutely right, but that's not the same perception for most New Yorker's even if they are wrong. Sticking it to the constituents would make Rudy lose the next election.
Quite frankly, when Rudy started spouting off about crime guns coming in to NY from other states, and worked to have my freedom limited, I wished he had lost the election. Many folks like me are thoroughly disgusted with people from NY and other liberal urban centers. Right off the bat there is a lack of trust involved, while I personally liked some things about Rudy, I wouldn't trust him any further than I could throw him. Rudy did nothing to change my opinion, he just muttered some baloney and basically dodged the questions. I could not be sure he would defend my rights if need be.
Rudy isn't alone, Romney shares some of the same liability, McCain, well, who knows, and even George Bush was a bit wishy washy.
I don't know which way I'll go, but the GOP will take me for granted at it's own risk.
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