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Waterboarding is Not Torture
Waterboarding is not torture. People can say, "well it's painful, therefore it's torture," but torture is not defined by discomfort. If it was, sending criminals to prison is very torturous isn't it, after all, can anyone tell me that prison is not painful? We waterboard our own soldiers to train them. Does that mean, we torture our own soldiers but the media speaks out only when terrorists are tortured? After all, who cares if soldiers are tortured for training, right?
I thought this was an interesting debate between a naive biased anchor on MSNBC and an educated good debater named Liz Cheney:
Watch the whole thing.
I find it hilarious that the anchor ran out of arguments and decided to call on the Geneva Conventions. Since when did Al Qaeda sign the Geneva conventions?
And the final argument that makes even dumb creationists look smart: "But we're a beacon of freedom to the world and so we should stay away from such enhanced interrogation tactics that could be construed as torture."
This is ridiculous. We are a beacon of freedom because we overthrew Saddam Hussein, but I bet this anchor would scream "war monger" at Bush if she ever met him face to face.
We are a beacon of freedom because of our laws for our citizens and because of our foreign policy of helping those in need and joining wars such as World War II or the Iraq War to stop tyranny.
We are not a beacon of freedom because of how we treat terrorists who willingly attacked and/or planned to attack civilians. Do some people feel sorry for Khalid for being water boarded? Why? Have you ever met Khalid? Have you not heard he joined Al Qaeda, a terrorist organization who's sole purpose is to kill infidels (which can be applied to anyone who is not a believer in Al Qaeda's corrupted cultish belief in Islam).
Addendum 1/8/2012:
Waterboarding is torture in the sense that torture is pain inflicted for the purpose of extracting information.
The question is whether it is allowed since our enemies can use horrific methods on our soldiers. Whether the tool of torture can be useful to our intelligence officers to stop attacks.
So in a moral sense, it is immoral, but does the end justify the means? If we stop an attack that saves the lives of thousands, are we justified in torturing one terrorist to do it?
John McCain who WAS tortured, feels that water boarding is worse than what he went through? Why? Because you are literally drowning the person, If It exceeded five or six minutes the prisoner would likely die. Near Death experiences cause emotional trauma. And McCain felt that emotional torture is worse than physical because scars heal. Do some research before writing brief uncited articles that are outright false.
McCain was tied up in awkward positions, beaten everyday, he has the scars and disabilities to prove it. He was not just water-boarded. Water-boarding is not really torture, it's a psychological effect to make you think you are drowning, and no one dies from it unless it was handled by non-experts.
There is nothing false about the article. It's a perspective you may not agree with, but that's because you believe that you can magically get time-sensitive information from terrorists by being friendly.
If a terrorist attack occurred and the information to prevent the attack could have been attained by water-boarding you would be singing a DIFFERENT TUNE.
And don't give me that false information about water-boarding being ineffective. If I know you have a certain piece of information, the pain would force you to give me the correct information, it's too unbearable.
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